GL-117

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	GL-117 posted by Bitey @ 216.187.95.82 on May 25 2007 9:27 PM
Wow!! What an awesome game! It isn't intimidating like other combat sims, but still has plenty of action. The "world" is pretty cool, the way the trees sway in the stormy weather, but I would like to see some good ol' freefall bombs, but I am not very good at programming. Overall though, I think it is one of the FUNNEST games i've played in years!!
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	Exellent posted by lewin @ 58.165.248.47 on Mar 23 2007 8:26 PM
This is the best flight simulator I have played!!! Great!!!
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	GL-117 posted by Anonymous @ 60.231.35.151 on Nov 22 2006 7:32 PM
A lot of fun, one of the best free open-source linux games I've come across. But really folks, where the HELL is the network play here?
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	GL-117 posted by caval @ 83.35.42.174 on Oct 22 2006 3:25 PM
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	Awesome, but no networked multiplayer... posted by Nullmech @ 65.19.65.11 on Oct 18 2006 3:35 PM
This is an AWESOME game! Great graphics, great controls, great gameplay... the only thing it's missing is networked multiplayer support. Does anyone know if that's in development?
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	Incredible posted by Anonymous @ 82.190.205.173 on Jun 22 2006 4:18 AM
Yes, it's incredible that a person did this such good game without any cent... well, Many Many thanks. It's a beutiful 3D game, and some little bad detail IMHO is not so important overall. A must ( especially for Linux users ). (By the way: I've got an analog 2-axes and 2-buttons gameport joystick, but in this game - ONLY in this game- the second joystick button doesn't work ! I don't really know what to do... -yes, I checked ".gl-117/conf.interface"- Any suggestions ? )
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	GL-117 posted by Anonymous @ 86.55.181.116 on Apr 1 2006 4:42 AM
it is absolutely coool. BUT there is the lack of maps. Please put some more maps in it. Thanks
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	5 stars!!! posted by Anonymous @ 200.158.86.160 on Dec 31 2005 5:59 AM
Excellent game !!! 5 stars !!!
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	awesome!! posted by bigfatdude @ 66.254.246.198 on Dec 10 2005 4:53 AM
GL-117 rocks my world!
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	how bomb the depot posted by Anonymous @ 212.199.195.215 on Dec 6 2005 12:16 AM
Hi , Is somebudy can explain me how can i bomb the depot on the depts level.
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Re: how bomb the depot posted by nath @ 213.23.152.123 on Dec 7 2005 12:14 AM Either destroy it with lots of machine gun fire or use some ground bombs (you have to choose those when choosing your plane).   [Reply]   Re: how bomb the depot posted by Anonymous @ 212.199.195.215 on Dec 11 2005 12:49 AM   thank's a lot   [Reply]   KovalioA posted by Anonymous @ 82.158.115.126 on Jan 15 2007 1:23 AM   Hello, nice site!   [Reply]

	Great flying game posted by nath @ 213.23.152.210 on Nov 19 2005 8:29 AM
It is a great flying game. Only 4 stars because of the missing network mode (and therefore limited replayability).
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	Great posted by Anonymous @ 80.58.9.48 on Sep 18 2005 4:24 PM
I think that the strongest point of this game is easiness of controling the airplane, instead of such difficult fliying simulator in wich you are unable to take-off the plane. If you implement networking missions-combat it would become one of the greatest games that I had ver played. Good Job
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Re: Great posted by Anonymous @ 86.193.160.49 on Sep 19 2005 3:47 AM   Well... I'm not a fond of network play, but I quite agree with you. This game is a damn good one ! What it lacks is just more missions to play, and network play would probably help to fill this lack. I finished the game... now I'm sad ;)   [Reply]   Re: Great posted by Anonymous @ 86.124.145.166 on Mar 23 2007 12:37 PM   Yep, i finished this game too :D Thumbs Up from Romania! The game is super! Is there any chance for a network mode? I would really much like to destroy my friends :)   [Reply]

	Problem when start the game posted by Anonymous @ 201.13.154.144 on Sep 17 2005 2:38 PM
gustavo@seifer:~$ gl-117 Info: Found gl-117 data directory /usr/local/share/gl-117 Info: Startup gl-117, V1.3 ... Info: Loading /home/gustavo/.gl-117/conf Info: Saving /home/gustavo/.gl-117/conf Info: Loading /home/gustavo/.gl-117/conf.interface Info: Saving /home/gustavo/.gl-117/conf.interface Warning: Could not load saves/pilots Warning: Could not load pilot Info: Using SDL and GLUT Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Info: Loading /home/gustavo/.gl-117/saveconf Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Fatal: No working display mode 800x600 found. Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)
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	GL-117 posted by mdos @ 195.101.101.185 on Aug 31 2005 3:49 AM
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	Links not working :(( posted by Anonymous @ 62.217.244.52 on Jun 28 2005 11:38 PM
The homepage & download links for this game do not work... :(( aaaargghhhh please make an update!
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Re: Links not working :(( posted by Anonymous @ 69.161.22.112 on Jun 29 2005 10:37 AM   http://gl-117.sf.net   [Reply]

	NICE GAME posted by m0z4rt @ 82.210.141.214 on Jun 22 2005 5:53 PM
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	Great game! posted by Anonymous @ 69.202.198.163 on Mar 4 2005 6:31 PM
Outstanding game but it could really use a map editor and network play. Overall an excellent game, though. Highly reccomended!
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Re: Great game! posted by fran @ 82.251.246.145 on Apr 25 2005 12:12 PM I second this : network play would be great !! Anyway, it's already a well polished, very fun game.   [Reply]   Re: Great game! posted by Anonymous @ 203.23.22.153 on Apr 28 2005 9:20 PM   Just wondering about the lack of maps - GL-117 only comes with a single map set in a mountainous valley, in which all the missions take place. However, the screenshot featured both here an on the website shows a desert. Does anyone have that map?   [Reply]

	Nice Game! posted by TuxGamer @ 61.230.30.240 on Jul 2 2004 7:35 PM
This is the first action flight simulator game I've played, and I have to say it's pretty good. The graphics look nice, and the physics seem good. There are plenty of levels and maps, and there are good tutorials.
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	Soooo COOOOL!!!!! posted by Anonymous @ 69.4.114.239 on Jun 21 2004 1:13 PM
This is a really cool game!!!! I can't wait until they get the map editor working well. I have created some cool maps, but they are hard to create because I get tons of seg faults.
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	great game posted by Anonymous @ 80.133.235.75 on Jun 16 2004 12:35 PM
wow .. I like this game :o) it has very good physics and graphic is cool.
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	config files posted by Anonymous @ 213.143.73.233 on Jun 15 2004 6:41 AM
hi, i compiled & installed the game, but when i run it it says there's no config file. it's supposed to create one with default settings but it doesnt, so could someone just post a link to their own file? or an example conf.. thanks!
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Re: config files posted by Anonymous @ 217.235.225.73 on Jun 19 2004 5:08 AM   # Example for ~/.gl-117/conf width = 1024 height = 768 bpp = 32 fullscreen = 1 quality = 4 view = 130 dithering = 1 antialiasing = 1 specialeffects = 1 dynamiclighting = 1 sound = 100 music = 100 controls = 1 difficulty = 0 brightness = 0 physics = 0   [Reply]

	Brilliant!! posted by mdhowe @ 203.220.116.1 on Jun 1 2004 9:44 PM
Great graphics, great gameplay, good sound. Even runs well on my 466 celeron!! It does get bloody hard though.
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Re: Brilliant!! posted by Anonymous @ 82.66.164.15 on Jun 15 2004 8:23 AM   and it just lacks one thing : it needs mooore missions ! i wanna play again !!!   [Reply]

	Really nice! posted by admix @ 80.250.67.40 on May 6 2004 2:38 AM
I like it! Smooth gameplay, strong AI, but graphics can be little better :). 5 stars.
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	Works great! posted by korny @ 68.115.172.180 on Apr 25 2004 5:07 PM
Nuf said.
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	wtf? posted by Anonymous @ 139.168.61.239 on Apr 11 2004 7:35 PM
No multiplayer? lmao
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Re: wtf? posted by Anonymous @ 80.221.10.61 on Jun 15 2004 2:12 AM   Yes that is very humorous. Thank you for your opinion.   [Reply]   Re: wtf? posted by Anonymous @ 80.184.158.245 on Jun 15 2004 6:09 AM   most games are multiplayer, but what do you do with broken internet or while downloading? you play gothic 2 with windows, and gl-117 with linux;-)   [Reply]   Re: wtf? posted by Anonymous @ 82.66.164.15 on Jun 16 2004 1:02 AM   Besides, there are too much games that are ONLY multiplayer games... and personally, I don't really like multiplayer games.   [Reply]

	More of a 3d shootem than a flightsim. posted by Anonymous @ 203.221.54.100 on Apr 5 2004 3:38 PM
The flight model isn't very realistic. Nor are the aircraft. But heh! It'sit's a short download and it's fun. If there were a multiplayer option it'd rock.
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	Realy nice Shooter posted by janus @ 217.226.165.201 on Mar 1 2004 7:29 AM
i tried this game some weeks ago and i think: Great shooter ! Its realy good when you whant to shoot at something after work ;-) Janus
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	Superbe jeu d'aviation posted by Anonymous @ 81.248.77.178 on Feb 7 2004 12:40 PM
Installé sur un duron 1.2G avec une carte tnt2 32 Mo & sous une Linux Mandrake 9.2, ce jeu de simulation aérienne donne déjà beaucoup de sensations. Merci, Merci, Merci, Merci, Merci, Merci, Merci, Merci, Merci, Merci,
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Re: Superbe jeu d'aviation posted by Anonymous @ 129.132.168.23 on Feb 26 2004 4:59 AM   Du hast absolut Recht. Alle sprechen Französisch hier.   [Reply]

	Beaucoup mieux que M$ posted by Anonymous @ 81.248.77.178 on Feb 7 2004 12:34 PM
Je suis séduit.
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	GL-117 posted by Anonymous @ 80.200.248.205 on Feb 1 2004 6:02 AM
oh, by the way, anything multiplayer planned?
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	GL-117 posted by Anonymous @ 80.200.248.200 on Feb 1 2004 5:59 AM
real nice, and the AI beats me regularly
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	Excellent Game posted by Anonymous @ 66.244.226.121 on Jan 18 2004 12:46 PM
Thanks for the excellent game. Compiles and runs in Gentoo Linux without and problems. Even with my old ATI card it looks great and joysticks seems to work with out effort also. I would gives this a 5/5
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	Sound/Ammo problems posted by Anonymous @ 202.37.101.102 on Jan 16 2004 9:26 PM
I have downloaded the version that is in Debian unstable, and find that the gun fires automatically without me pressing ANYTHING in the first place. From the very second the mission starts, my ammo is being drained (loudly). Nothing I can do turns it off. Ammo then runs out. Great. However, when exiting the mission back out to the Menu, the gun fire sound effect still continues loudly forever. Even over the theme music. It doesn't stop until I exit the game completey. Thus, game is unplayable for me. However, I must say that the graphics are getting much better. Good job on that. I just wish the tacky splash screen and menu system were ditched for something less Commodore 64. A network option would make this an awesome game.
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Sorted posted by Anonymous @ 202.37.101.102 on Jan 18 2004 3:11 PM   Update: Sorted now. For some reason unplugging my gamepad fixed this and game now plays as normal. The physics of this game, although very arcade-like, do feel nice to fly around. Fun game - worth checking out. But Oh for a network dog-fight.   [Reply]

	excellent ! posted by Anonymous @ 81.56.199.253 on Dec 29 2003 11:34 PM
I like it ;-)
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	GL-117 posted by lite @ 80.186.40.2 on Dec 22 2003 2:56 PM
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	Great! posted by simonsunnyboy @ 139.174.100.32 on Dec 16 2003 5:55 AM
A nice and easy to play flightsim. It is very easy to play and has a special "detail calculator". At first start the game adjusts the visual details automatically to an acceptable level while trying to maintain a smooth framerate. Easy to play and a decent 3D blast. I recommend playing this especially if you don't like those detailed flightsims but if you prefer simple "fly and shoot" ones instead.
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	wtf? posted by Anonymous @ 213.164.241.132 on Dec 14 2003 7:08 AM
This is a very good game. Too bad you can't hear the plane's engine. But what happened to the capmaign missions inversion 1.1? They are now just demos? I have a pliot with all missions completed and I can't even play. Not all of the campaign missions in 1.0.1 are available, nor are the cool new planes (Redarrow, Hawk II and GL-117), although they are listed in the "Fighters" menu.
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Re: wtf? posted by Anonymous @ 81.133.103.228 on Dec 16 2003 3:47 PM   You appear to have to work through all the training stages before you can move onto the campaigns.   [Reply]

	A great game! posted by @ 213.199.192.37 on Oct 29 2003 11:47 PM
In my opinion this is the greatest flight simlation that I have ever seen under Linux... Almost everythink is nice, excpt trees and lack of terrain variety, I think that the authors should improve the look of trees and and some destroyable ground objects:) A great think that makes me happy is GPL license so I can install it on Debian.
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	Fantastic! posted by Anonymous @ 128.250.6.134 on Sep 13 2003 4:58 AM
Having played Gl-117 for about a week, I have to add my voice of praise to the rest - this is one very, very slick game: highly playable, great graphics and fast and furious game play. One of the few open source games that's really impressed me. That said, I'd have to add my vote for firing the gun only when button 1 is held down - click on/click off gets rather annoying! I'd also nitpick and say the title sequence/menus could have a bit more work - pulsating/rotating words look a bit like the author's only just discovered openGL and is putting in every conceivable bit of candy; they really don't look very professional :) The drawing of the bullets could also do with a bit more thought ... But that wouldn't stop me rating this game with 5 stars if I could be bothered to log in ... these are minor issues - the most important aspect of any game is the game play, which in this case is simply superb.
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	gl-117 V1 bad work - deleted ! posted by ACCOM @ 217.226.45.93 on Aug 26 2003 7:09 AM
It's bad work - even within the config-menue this 'game' eats 100% of CPU - almost no mouse-movement possible! - I do not need such things [ AMD 1250 MHz ] - game deleted. No stars! - ACCOM
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Re: gl-117 V1 bad work - deleted ! posted by Anonymous @ 195.54.71.3 on Oct 31 2003 12:05 AM   All heavy 3D based games behave like that, if your graphics card and/or driver doesn't support hardware 3D acceleration.   [Reply]   Re: gl-117 V1 bad work - deleted ! posted by Anonymous @ 217.82.203.56 on Dec 14 2003 4:14 PM   Actually it's normal behaviour even with hardware acceleration, it uses every cycle possible to get max fps. If it would only use 5 %, it would give you only 5% the frames per second or 5% of the details, whatever, games like this are meant to be played fullscreen and with maximum hardware usage. Every 3d - action - Game does it this way. Try Quake, Unreal or whatever, it'll be the same, even 3d Ping Pong, i guess.   [Reply]   Re: gl-117 V1 bad work - deleted ! posted by Anonymous @ 217.82.203.56 on Dec 14 2003 4:16 PM   ok, i'm stupid, i correct myself, it should be possible to use the cursor in the in-game menu, of course...   [Reply]   Re: gl-117 V1 bad work - deleted ! posted by Anonymous @ 217.235.224.124 on Dec 16 2003 4:52 AM   An option to exit the game is pressing "ESC" and 'y' to confirm.   [Reply]   Re: gl-117 V1 bad work - deleted ! posted by Defiance @ 207.74.131.7 on Dec 15 2003 11:23 AM   Try setting your system up properly before you bitch.   [Reply]

	1 problem... posted by dolphin @ 80.221.248.75 on Aug 25 2003 8:59 AM
Excellent game, but... Models are done with 3DS MAX =P Blender (www.blender3d.org) is open source and could do things as well ... and because Blender is free you can also do more "complicated" features to export...
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	Very good posted by Anonymous @ 213.41.136.205 on Aug 14 2003 5:52 AM
Could be a sequel of F29-Retaliator :)
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	Excellent Work! posted by daen1543 @ 12.240.2.248 on Jul 3 2003 12:10 PM
I love the terrain and water effects. By far the best looking open source linux game I've played. In the next version (after 0.9) I'd like to see more realistic ground damage and physics (both optional, so you still could enjoy the arcade feel).
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	GL-117 posted by Anonymous @ 203.97.2.243 on Jun 20 2003 1:26 AM
This is by far my favourite game for linux. I love the rolling scenery and I find the AI descent. The one grumble I have is the bullets. But now I see 0.9 ready for download which has just made my day. Thanks for a legend game.
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Re: GL-117 posted by grolschie @ 203.97.29.100 on Jul 4 2003 1:20 AM Damn good game, and yes the bullets annoy. :-)   [Reply]

	Excelent! posted by blacksheep @ 213.205.69.204 on Jun 19 2003 4:59 PM
Keep up the good work! :)
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	GL-117 posted by Hans J Micheelsen @ 62.107.93.2 on Jun 19 2003 1:38 PM
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	well done posted by Anonymous @ 217.6.21.194 on Jun 14 2003 1:47 AM
Cool game. Only in the missions I am out of ammo sometimes, esp. when something on the ground has to be killed and my comrades try to fly trough the mountains :-) Models look quite well, but they aren't perfect. (4 stars)
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	Great game posted by Anonymous @ 212.10.113.135 on May 2 2003 6:49 AM
What a great game! Runs nicely on my 1.2 GHz Athloon Thunderbird, Voodoo 3500 (16MB)
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Re: Great game posted by Anonymous @ 193.167.130.5 on Aug 25 2003 3:53 AM   Oh, be quiet! My (best) computer is only a K6-III 400MHz with TNT2/64   [Reply]   Re: Great game posted by Anonymous @ 217.225.16.220 on Oct 26 2003 8:22 AM   What do you say to my Athlon XP 2400+, 512 MB RAM, 80GB HDD, GeForce4 440MX + TV Out, Dolby Sourround Sound onboard, Firewire onboard, 2 Networkdevices onboard, CD-Writer and only LINUX RUNNING? The whole shit costed me less than 800 euros.   [Reply]   Re: Great game posted by Anonymous @ 200.176.49.140 on Oct 27 2003 11:37 AM   800 euros is a lot of money in my country, a lot of people cant get 800 euros in a whole year (with less than 800 euros have to buy food for the family and pay all the others expences).   [Reply]   Re: Great game posted by Anonymous @ 217.225.16.220 on Oct 26 2003 8:22 AM   What do you say to my Athlon XP 2400+, 512 MB RAM, 80GB HDD, GeForce4 440MX + TV Out, Dolby Sourround Sound onboard, Firewire onboard, 2 Networkdevices onboard, CD-Writer and only LINUX RUNNING? The whole shit costed me less than 800 euros.   [Reply]   Re: Great game posted by Anonymous @ 217.75.78.23 on Dec 15 2003 3:27 PM   P4 1500 Mhz, 512 DDR, 40 GB Barracuda, MB Gigabyte, CD writer, 17" monitor, bla bla bla - 260 euro - only LINUX running! choose LIVE! choose LINUX!   [Reply]

	5 Stars!!! posted by Anonymous @ 202.37.101.12 on Mar 27 2003 8:42 PM
Great gfx. Smooth and professional. VERY playable. Would like to see a little more gravity. I find the machine gun a pain (visually and audibly), and would prefer to just down button as long as I need it, rather than click on and off. But that's just my opinion. Keep coding, keep optimising for performance! Excellent work!
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	GL-117 posted by Nebu @ 62.112.211.239 on Mar 27 2003 8:00 AM
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	A really good game posted by Anonymous @ 203.97.2.243 on Mar 22 2003 3:45 PM
I found this game highly enjoyable and i have managed to finish all the missins on easy (radar base and elite dogfight were the hardest). The trick to the really hard ones are to focus on the mission objective, like for radar base i tried for ages to kill all the guys but then i figured just to go for the main complex and screw the rest. kalvinrulz@netscape.net
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Re: A really good game posted by Anonymous @ 68.48.142.143 on Jan 31 2004 1:06 PM   How did you managed to finish the third Campaign (Transport)? I kill all three planes and then nothing happens, i.e. the mission does not end and no other targets to find.   [Reply]   Re: A really good game posted by Anonymous @ 209.86.136.166 on Jun 26 2005 9:00 PM   go south Full throttle, follow your ally if he's still alive. If your lucky your ally will get the two transport planes before you can catchup.   [Reply]

	possible additions posted by Anonymous @ 203.97.2.243 on Mar 22 2003 3:38 PM
i reckon they should add a thingy to tell you how much health you got and an altimeter bob smith
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	Great! posted by nph @ 80.131.79.173 on Mar 21 2003 7:57 PM
Really fun to play! What I'd love to see in it: more plane types and more noticable differences between them (maybe optional) more realistic physics, e.g. losing altitude when rolling on the side, etc. level/mission editor multiplayer
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	Primo! posted by grolschie @ 202.37.101.12 on Mar 21 2003 4:31 PM
Wonderful!!! This has the building blocks of a GREAT game. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE keep developing it. If needed, grab more people for your team to share the load. This could be one of the best sim games (with arcade playability) for *nix! I found the stay bullets in the sky and the red x thing confusing. But I managed to track the enemy with the radar thingamee! This game kinda reminds me of the C-64 classic "Top Gun" which had excellent multiplayer action.
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	GL-117 posted by mantas @ 193.219.13.250 on Mar 21 2003 10:18 AM
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	0.8.5 posted by Anonymous @ 68.97.55.66 on Mar 20 2003 8:27 PM
I don't like the changes that were made to the flight mechanics since 0.8, just too jerky like there was no inertia calculations. The flight model from the previous versions was way better. But congratulations on the graphics side of things. I can get an acceptable frame rate now with my Radeon 9700 on Windows.
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	GL-117 posted by Anonymous @ 80.223.98.163 on Feb 25 2003 9:19 AM
Hi, I'm having problems with this one. The game crashes with "Illegal instruction", and this happens both for the binary rpm, and for the one I compiled by myself... My system is Pentium4, RH8.0 Linux, ATI Rage 128...
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	Written in C++, *hurl* posted by Anonymous @ 4.42.65.57 on Feb 19 2003 12:21 PM
C is faster than C++. Anyone who gives up a little performance for the conventions of C++ deserves neither performance nor easily maintainable code at all.
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Re: Written in C++, *hurl* posted by Anonymous @ 129.21.110.179 on Feb 19 2003 4:08 PM   Please don't post crap. C and C++ are both -languages-; there is nothing intrinsicly faster with C than C++. Repeat: they are languages. Now, if you wanted to compare C compilers with C++ compilers, that would be different. But you instead chose to simply rant about languages without a shred of evidence to back your theory up. You seem to forget that most games (especially commercial) are now written in C++.   [Reply]   Re: Written in C++, *hurl* posted by Anonymous @ 130.236.231.70 on Feb 20 2003 10:27 AM   I believe many of them use even higher level languages for builtin scripting. When complex game logic is needed it is probably much faster to write in a language where you needn't worry about memory management and stuff. Instead you can devote time to optimize where it is most needed.   [Reply]   You art thy one who hath posted crap. posted by Anonymous @ 206.217.68.233 on Mar 19 2003 11:57 AM   C++ is object-oriented extensions to C. Thus, the C++ language is the C language plus cruft. Logically, C is more primitive and thus offers higher performance. This debate was resolved many years ago and the resolution reached was the truth: C programs are smaller, more efficient, equally flexible, compile faster, and the post-compiled application is *always* either equal to or faster; than that of C++. On the other-hand, C++ offers a syntax that *appears* to be more organelled (or organized), which promotes self-hyped ease of maintanability, nevertheless C programs are much more conformant to cross-platform computing. There you two idiots have it. C has always been and always will be prima faci - the greatest and most productive language in the history of mankind. Remember, C++ and C are only distinguishabe by the skill of the persons that use them and the standards the persons may adhere upon. C++ is more proprietary to C; such is evident, nonetheless C is able to be construed by organization. Microsoft hath maliciously defiled C syntax upon their product VISUAL C and thus is an abomination. Kudos :)   [Reply]   Re: You art thy one who hath posted crap posted by Anonymous @ 217.229.139.214 on Mar 19 2003 9:03 PM   Who - who - who - who - who - who let the troll out?   [Reply]   Re: You art thy one who hath posted crap posted by Anonymous @ 65.28.38.164 on Mar 19 2003 9:35 PM   Most of C++ is just making C easier. for instance, function overloading. No overhead since it's found at compile time, but less naems to remember and less typing. Classes are just structs with easier initialization. The only part about C++ that is by design slower than C is using inheritence. How much slower? Slow enough to follow a pointer and read a VTABLE. Compared to the time spent drawing graphics and implementing AI this is hardly a problem. And if you wanted to implement anything like that in C it'd take a lot more work and you'd get the same overhead.   [Reply]   Re: You art thy one who hath posted crap posted by Anonymous @ 210.11.48.37 on Mar 19 2003 9:41 PM   um... no according to 'the c++ programming language' by bjarne stroustrup, he made it *based on* c not *extending* c. he didn't just get a existing c compiler and whack object orientation on it.   [Reply]   Re: You art thy one who hath posted crap posted by Anonymous @ 80.143.123.113 on Feb 2 2005 6:19 AM   Actually, yes he did. The first C++ compiler was a PRE-PROCESSOR that spat out C code ... freakin' newbies. what are you kids, 15 years old?   [Reply]   Re: You art thy one who hath posted crap posted by Anonymous @ 142.166.247.228 on Mar 20 2003 3:57 AM   I believe when you referred to the most productive language you were talking about COBOL ;). While C(whatever) programmers were debugging pointers, COBOL programmers were churning out mountains of headaches for the next generation! :D   [Reply]   Re: Written in C++, *hurl* posted by Anonymous @ 66.93.16.143 on Mar 20 2003 12:41 PM   First of all, that is just a stupid bastardization of a quote. Secondly, shut up dumb ass, heh. I realize you're trolling and I'm biting which is your intention, but I can't help it in the C vs C++ debates. They usually originate from people with only a knowledge of the C language, but not software engineering and computer science. If you had both, you'd come to realise that most concepts in programming are language independent. You'd also realise one thing, that OO programming in C is certainly possible but stupid. The reason it is stupid is because you have to do everything for yourself, whereas in C++ the compiler will take care of some of it for you. One good example is a virtual table. If you wrote an OO program in C, you'd have to manage the virtual table yourself -- including setting it up, passing it off to "derived objects", etc... In C++, the compiler will take care of that for you. True you loose access to it, but then there really isn't a need to access it anyway. If you really do want to access it, you can make a hack on your specific platform to figure out where the VT is stored and do some hacky-casting to get it. Anyway, I'll stop ranting now.   [Reply]   Re: Written in C++, *hurl* posted by Anonymous @ 62.78.118.68 on Mar 27 2003 8:44 AM   Hmm, performance can be bought cheaply at a store near you...   [Reply]   Re: Written in C++, *hurl* posted by Anonymous @ 18.186.0.34 on Apr 29 2003 11:20 AM   If arbitrarily much performance could be bought cheaply, hardware manufacturers would not be spending their billions on R&D. Having said that, “C++ on modern hardware ought to be fast enough for anyone.” But you still have to decide whether the extra layer of abstraction is worth the extra layer of bureaucracy, especially as regards the extra debugging time tracking down those stupid pointers. That's why I agree with the original poster: use C when you need speed, and modern scripting languages—which do better what C++ was intended to do—when you don't. But there again, I never even mastered writing syntactically correct C++ code.   [Reply]   Re: Written in C++, *hurl* posted by Anonymous @ 202.37.101.13 on Apr 29 2003 6:19 PM   Let's see the benchmarks for 3D H/W accelerated code. If there really is a big difference in benchies between C/C++, then I'll be convinced. "Show me the money".   [Reply]

	Fun! posted by rknop @ 68.52.229.60 on Feb 1 2003 1:56 PM
This is a fun one! I suck at it (I've gotten through 2/3 of the levels in easy mode, but "Main Base" has so far stymied me-- and, anyway, I keep running into the ground), but I'm having a blast with it. Not a realistic flight simulator at all... indeed, it's a good thing, so that when I run into the ground my "shield" gets diminished and I bounce off. Otherwise, I'd never have gotten through the tutorials. But it's fast playing and fun. (With Quality at 1, I usually get "Perfect" FPS on my PIII-550MHz with a Radeon 7500.)
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	Great! posted by grumbel @ 217.82.82.158 on Dec 25 2002 7:39 AM
Debian package installed easily [apt-get install gl-117 ;)], joystick config was quickly findable in the menu and the throttle/ruder mixup was quickly corrected in ~/.gl-117/conf.interface, great so the game could start :) Gameplay is fast and simply, you shouldn't expect a real flightsimulator, but more WingCommander-with-ground, the game reminds me a bit of Furry^3. There is a tutorial and there are a two handfulls of missions, ranging from air-to-air defense to attacking ground vehicles, there are weather effects, nice lightnings and things like that. Even so it is simply it basically has everything what you would expect from a real game. Its fun, plain and simple Drawbacks? Well, the gfx is not really spectacular, the planes are bulid up from a handfull of triangles and look worse than what you have seen on your Amiga. The explosions aren't spectacular either. The ground is smooth, too smooth in my taste. The game also slows down on the highest detail level, so I had to switch to the lowest on a Matrox G450 + 1GHz Athlon, on that it was very fluent, but there is lots of room for optimizations (level of detail?!). The shoots also look quite blocky. Sound is there, but again nothing spectacular. The fonts in the menus are pretty jaggy. After all a pretty nice fast action game, that could need quite a bit of cleanup and optimization. Never the less its real fun flying around and seeing other planes shooting at you, having seen such action for a long time. One of the better linux games around and actually a pretty playable.
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	Not worth the trouble posted by Anonymous @ 65.28.211.177 on Dec 24 2002 8:34 PM
Most distros don't come with GLU/GLUT, and they're a pain in the ass to install by hand. I'm sure the game's decent, but the dependencies are not worth it. Don't bother.
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Re: Not worth the trouble posted by grumbel @ 217.82.82.158 on Dec 25 2002 7:26 AM Glut is a pretty basic OpenGL library (well, you can't really get more basic than Glut) and should come with every distro on this planet, if it doesn't came with yours is probally better to switch your distro.   [Reply]

	finally, a fun fighter sim posted by captaint @ 128.151.89.160 on Oct 25 2002 8:28 PM
I've been looking for a fighter flight sim that balances realism and fun well, and GL-117 is that game. It could use a slightly better tutorial for players (like me) who aren't very good with flight sims, but with a little playing time you can pick it up, and when you do you'll find yourself hopelessly addicted.
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	this is great! posted by burito @ 210.50.30.3 on Oct 17 2002 1:23 PM
no realisim whatsoever, just simple, quick to get into, fun. A must have.
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	MUCH improved! posted by aablackm @ 24.116.209.230 on Jul 22 2002 9:31 PM
Version 0.5.5 has fixed pretty much all of the issues I had with the earlier versions. Also, it's much more fun, having real missions! The climactic "Canyon Battle" mission at the end is quite tough, and loads of fun. I say any game that can have me pretty much obsessed nonstop with beating it gets 5 stars. Even better for nifty effects, like the "stormy" levels having trees that sway in the wind! All my base are belong to gl-117.
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	game posted by Anonymous @ 147.46.105.53 on May 28 2002 12:10 AM
I'm looking for a wonderful game...
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	Looks promising posted by aablackm @ 24.116.209.230 on May 26 2002 5:32 PM
This looks like a very fun game to play. I like the rendering of the landscapes, very evocative. And of course it's fun to blow things up in midair. :-) I might recommend a different interface, though. I don't like using the mouse to control my plane; perhaps an option for pure keyboard control? Or even redefining the controls? I look forward to updates to this game.
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Re: Looks promising posted by nilfilter @ 217.1.115.14 on May 27 2002 4:02 AM Yes, it really looks nice. I am using a joystick but cannot figure out how to configure it for _this_ game. When I want to fly a turn to the right (by moving the stick to the right), the fighter rotate about its axis...   [Reply]   Re: Looks promising posted by Anonymous @ 80.1.13.247 on Jun 10 2002 3:59 AM   that's quite common with flight simulators... yaw, then pull up.   [Reply]