Go Ollie

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	64 bits posted by RedDwarf @ 88.2.49.89 on Jul 2 2009 8:25 AM
openSUSE now has x86-64 package, with tuxcap 1.4.0. So I think there are no more complains about this game.
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	Worm posted by marduk @ 87.105.191.14 on Jun 15 2009 7:42 AM
Hero is somehow similar to Jim
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	wonderful posted by titi @ 195.4.161.228 on Dec 4 2008 5:19 PM
a wonderful game!
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Re: wonderful posted by Viliam @ 92.52.28.192 on Jun 16 2009 9:55 PM yes   [Reply]

	Thanks to the author posted by jrodman @ 64.142.12.203 on Nov 30 2008 10:16 PM
Thanks for creating this experimental and interesting game, and also for patiently addressing our free software concerns. Active engagement is really something to be cherished.
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	open source ? posted by Draconishinobi @ 89.122.167.246 on Nov 26 2008 9:09 PM
Are you sure the source is available ? I'm pretty sure it's not.
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Re: open source ? posted by AVRS @ 93.81.176.95 on Nov 26 2008 10:07 PM The game’s source code is nowhere to see… It is not a real free software this way: what do you choose as the source code (preferred form for modifications) for the GPLv3 in it?   [Reply]   Re: open source ? posted by W.P. van Paassen @ 85.223.48.131 on Nov 26 2008 10:08 PM   The source is included in the downloadable .sh file. Just install the game and look in the bin directory. All game sources is are the *.py files. Go Ollie is powered by TuxCap for which the source is at tuxcap.sf.net   [Reply]   Re: open source ? posted by Draconishinobi @ 89.122.167.246 on Nov 26 2008 10:21 PM Indeed there are some .py files, but many more .pyc without corresponding .py, this means that the source for those is not available only the byte-code. And why does it have to be 32-bit, I have a 64-bit machine. If it's written in python, shouldn't it work natively in 64-bit ? I know libtuxcap can be compiled for 64-bit.   [Reply]   Re: open source ? posted by W.P. van Paassen @ 85.223.48.131 on Nov 27 2008 6:30 AM   Go Ollie is bundled with python version 2.5 to make it run on systems without python installed, so the other *.pyc files in the bin directory are from python 2.5. You can get the source files from there. Although libtuxcap compiles on 64 bit, the software renderer does not work on 64 bit for now, but of course you're free to help with that :-). I know it's not easy to see at first sight what's in the installation but Go Ollie really is free software, that's why the people from debian gaming are packaging it as we speak. I would also like to add that all the great artwork and music is released under creative commons by-sa version 3.0 too, so I think this is really a great gift.   [Reply]   Re: open source ? posted by ceyhun @ 88.255.192.176 on Nov 27 2008 7:45 AM Can you add tarball file to download ? (to make package for linux distributions )   [Reply]   Re: open source ? posted by frostwork @ 79.209.230.146 on Nov 27 2008 9:01 AM very well done! thanks a lot! but i'd love to see a cleaned up source-tarball too :)   [Reply]   Re: open source ? posted by AMDmi3 @ 213.180.219.41 on Nov 27 2008 1:34 PM   Yeah, me too. Btw, another request: please include version number into the filename of source tarball. Some packaging systems (such as FreeBSD ports) use checksumming to verify distfile integrity, so if there's only something like GoOllie-source.tar.gz, and it's updated and rerolled, that'd be a pain for both port maintainer (as it's hard to detect in time) and users (who will have `tarball is broken' message instead of a game). Also it would be nice to have source packages for your other games, too :)   [Reply]   Re: open source ? posted by W.P. van Paassen @ 85.223.48.131 on Nov 28 2008 9:48 PM   I will add a source tarball in the coming days   [Reply]   Re: open source ? posted by W.P. van Paassen @ 85.223.48.131 on Dec 15 2008 6:54 PM   The source code bundle is up at our site at http://tweeler.com/goollie_linux.html   [Reply]   Re: open source ? posted by Draconishinobi @ 89.122.167.246 on Nov 27 2008 9:10 AM Well, I guess if Debian is packaging it, then it really is open-source. A cleaned-up source tarball in a good idea tho. It does work non-natively on 64-bit. And so far it looks well made.   [Reply]   Go Ollie posted by AVRS @ 93.80.211.239 on Nov 28 2008 6:49 PM OK, I didn’t want to install an unknown .sh file, so I have tried unpacking it and only saw some of the files. The game is great. Unmentioned non-game issues: AFAIK, you have to also distribute the source code of the LGPL libraries (that is, at least SDL). bin/res/sounds/ contains a file named “.ogg”. random files have “.JPG” as the file name extension, instead of “.jpg”. some of the files in extraResources/ have an executable permission set.   [Reply]   Re: Go Ollie posted by W.P. van Paassen @ 85.223.48.131 on Nov 28 2008 9:47 PM   Thanks for the feedback and suggestions. Regarding to having to include the source of the SDL library, I include a standard version of the library, so including the license and a reference to the SDL web site should be sufficient (see also the file licenses in the lib directory). I'll fix the other issues.   [Reply]   Re: Go Ollie posted by AMDmi3 @ 213.148.20.85 on Nov 28 2008 10:04 PM   > AFAIK, you have to also distribute the source code of the LGPL libraries (that is, at least SDL) That is obviously not true.   [Reply]   Re: Go Ollie posted by AVRS @ 95.24.129.187 on Dec 17 2008 9:20 PM Then I do not know what is true (especially if it is something obvious which proves me wrong). AFAICT, if the site to which a person distributing the binary links disappears, and the person doesn’t give a new link or the source code itself to someone eligible who hasn’t got the code yet, the letter of LGPL is violated (but probably not its spirit in case of a popular library like SDL). (A bit of off-topic here, but I'll use it to give a rating.)   [Reply]   Re: Go Ollie posted by charlieg @ 83.138.34.50 on Jul 2 2009 11:30 AM   LGPL is copyleft. You only need to redistribute the source if you modify it. I don't think the GoOllie author is modifying SDL.   [Reply]