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PlaneShift

Version: 0.5.0
Author: PlaneShift Team / Atomic Blue Published by Atomic Blue
Category: Role Playing Rate this game yourself!   Average of 47 Ratings:3.333.333.33

PlaneShift Screenshot 3D persistent fantasy MMORPG

PlaneShift is a persistent fantasy multiplayer Role Playing Game with state-of-the-art 3D graphics, over 150 NPCs with available quests, and a crafting system. Create your character and live in an ever-changing world. Build with us a Team that will make PlaneShift THE choice of MMORPG.

License: free

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  Thanks to the devs posted by Talad @ 79.40.33.136 on Dec 24 2009 5:17 PM 55555
Look here for a very nice post, I thank the players back for their support !!
 
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  nothing changed posted by trb7 @ 82.154.97.158 on Oct 6 2009 8:50 PM 1
Nothing really changed in all these years, the same problems persist, the same rudeness and arrogance by the GMs persist - if you have the patience, read some of the posts below to see how the drama unfolds - you'll never read anything like it in the official Planeshift forums, since all speech is actively censored, it's way past moderation, and anything that might've be deemed even remotely harmful towards Planeshift or Planeshift's image will be deleted before you have the chance to realize it was deleted. No criticism is allowed, if it's constructive, objective and valid is irrelevant, it's just not allowed. Hence all the posts here, seems that everyone that wanted to express their discontent with the game found in happypenguin a forum to express it - obviously the Planeshift forums can't be used, they're meant for endless praising only. If you're a developer wanting to contribute to the game, get ready for a nasty surprise, the existent "developer's team" is oblivious to anything but their own work and specially, their own copyrights, nothing else deserves respect.
 
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  Re: nothing changed posted by Tuxide @ 24.252.46.107 on Oct 7 2009 12:29 AM  
I highly recommend reading all of my posts since everyone seems to end up hating me more than anything.
 
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  Re: nothing changed posted by Talad @ 79.40.33.136 on Dec 24 2009 5:07 PM 55555
Totally wrong. There is a forum for complains open since many years, and it's full of critics and suggestion on how to improve. Hope this disqualifies your posts.
 
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  PlaneShift posted by Zanzibar @ 99.236.187.222 on Jun 21 2009 6:25 PM  
If the game masters or moderators tell you to do something and you ignore them, even though you understand what they're asking of you, then you are insulting them. It's like you're saying their opinions don't matter to you. If you waste their time, then that's also insulting them. You're saying their time doesn't matter. You're ignoring the fact that they're volunteers who have better things to do than ask you for the tenth time to play nice.

If you come to a forum or game where texting in leet is against the rules, and you're told to stop and you refuse, people will feel that you're not just being rude, but also lazy. It is entirely understandable if people feel insulted by your behaviour in that situation.

There are good reasons for the rule on not making threads about game masters. The game masters are putting themselves on the line because they care about the community so much. Since they're putting themselves at risk for the sake of the project and its community, they deserve to be protected. More than that, they need to be protected in order to effectively do what we ask of them.
 
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  Re: PlaneShift posted by arashi20 @ 67.193.245.38 on Jun 22 2009 4:52 AM  
First of all, your not listening to what i am telling you... Naimon wasnt the one insulted I was!! .... i hadnt done ANYTHING wrong to begin with so for some reason i am offended and so is my guild, then not only that, the GM can be sarcastic to me when i havent done anything? NO the dont have any right to be protected from this, they have ruless that they themselves are supposed to follow. Why cant you guts cant see that. He had no right to insult me. The ban itself is a whole entirely diferent situation then this. Not only that that but i was on the GM talk asking what a groffel was, and got booted from that server and banned from that as well?!!!! why? The GM abused his power right thier! just because he didnt like my questions?! thats what they have a server there in the first place!!! i understand if i was asking and asking but "whats a groffel"? < this is supposed to be grounds for a ban? if that is then its a little pathetic to me
 
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  Re: PlaneShift posted by Rennaj @ 212.32.73.130 on Jun 22 2009 1:54 PM 1
First off Zanzibar I am utterly amazed at you complete turn around in your view on GM's, amazing!
Second There really is no point in posting in this forum as THY are on irc taking Mickey out of you, GM's, the two main posters here, AND well just about everyone ^^
As an ex GM I think I can say how it works, Kerol the moron in charge of the GMs, does not give a shit about you or anyone but himself, Talad does not give a dame what he does, so keep your head down for 20 days, and if you really want to be on there hit list of known trouble makers [[Shalmanezer ((Zanzibar)] ^^] play the game again, but do not be surprised if you are watched [ [Shalmanezer ((Zanzibar)] knows the feeling well ^^]

Now how it should work. [Shalmanezer ((Zanzibar)) knows this well ^^]

1.) Talk to player/s.
2.) Warn guilty of their crime/s and what will happen if they carry on.
3.) Repeat and you get a kick.
4.) Followed by a ban if you do it again.
But like all rules open to interpretation ^^

My beef with Kerol is he deleted my account [Rennaj] without a word, he still does not have the guts to talk to me, on asking Talad to put it right, after a few PMs

I repeat. I understand that his stats would have needed resetting but deletion was a bit extreme. There are many, many ex-GM's but their chars have not been deleted, simply had stats reset. Noxide, Gholmer, Tarel, Chaos, Caarrie... to name but a few. GM chars have never been deleted after leaving the team, so why now?

Also to do this without a word is just not on, he could have talked to me, but he never did and still has not given me a explanation, this is nothing but rude.

You implied I mislead you, I never said this was my main one, you assumed it.

Main point you are not getting is he did it without a word, also if that is what he wanted to do, why was Rennaj reset as a player? Then wipe out, leaving a empty account.

Why should I have to start him all over again, when even returning banned players do not have to do this

To cut his reply short, Kerol did it, I am a wimp and will not go against him. So be warned do not piss Kerol off as Talad will not help you ^^

WHY am I saying this?

Good question

I am mad as in crazy OR just typing in my sleep ^^

 
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  Re: PlaneShift posted by Zanzibar @ 99.236.187.222 on Jun 22 2009 9:02 PM  
I would not look to Rennaj as an example of a typical game master. If you have questions about the game master team and how they operate, ask it to Kerol. Much of what Rennaj posted is misleading.
 
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  Re: PlaneShift posted by Talad @ 79.40.33.136 on Dec 24 2009 5:09 PM 55555
Zanzibar is one of the troublemakers we had in the game for YEARS, he did everything possible to have him banned, including harassing other players, insulting everyone, posting on forums rants and nonsense, trolling and such. You are welcome to listen to him if you want.
 
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  Re: PlaneShift posted by Tuxide @ 24.252.46.107 on Dec 24 2009 8:05 PM  
Why the hell are we back to Zanzibar-bashing again? He isn't banned and as far as I know he hasn't been active for the past year. You sound like a 13 year old boy who just wants to persistently bully people on the internet.
 
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  Re: PlaneShift posted by Talad @ 79.40.33.136 on Dec 27 2009 11:41 AM 55555
Are you speaking to me? I refer the posts above made by Zanzibar. There are plenty in here quite recent.
 
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  Re: PlaneShift posted by Tuxide @ 24.252.46.107 on Dec 27 2009 3:14 PM  

Of course I am speaking to you. You have no idea what context his post is written in, or what it even says to begin with. Just the fact that it is written by Zanzibar is enough to piss you off.

Not only are your recent comments clearly argumentum ad hominem, they are uncivil.

 
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  [PLANESHIFT] GM abuse posted by arashi20 @ 67.193.245.38 on Jun 20 2009 2:32 AM  
HELLO ALL I am currently a player on the game PlaneShift but i have some comments that were apparently not acceptable on the forums. Today i was in the dylo pit, for some of you who arent familiar it is an open "player vs player" pit where you can be attacked by anyone at anytime...but there are npc's in that pit as well called dylo. I fell into that pit and as i tried to escape the dylo followed me into another room, there were other players in this room who saw it come in (no one died) and they took care of it because these other players were stronger than me. My husband thought this was a funny idea and started having the dylo chase him around...another player thought he was doing it as a personal attack to them so they petitioned him for it > this is only the beginning! My husband was then summoned by at least 4 GM's and developers saying that they were all watching him...now i dont no about you but if you were a GM would you all just so happen to be watching one specific character? at that exact moment? Then they said that over the past few days he had 6 reports against him but we didnt see a single one or hear of a single one...then they got on the topic of how he was kill stealing, this is what made me very upset...ive had 5 GM'S tell me that kill stealing is impossible without the help of a cheat or hack of some kind...which my husband was not using...then the GM'S turned around and said that he WAS kill stealing even after they said it was impossible? They let my husband ramble on and on about how he hadnt done anything..mind you the dylo misshap wasnt even in a rule anywhere...there is no rule that says you cant move an npc...and if they think it was a type of harassment which we said it wasnt they still refused to believe him or even for the most part listen to anything he was saying I wish i truly do that he could have saved the logs i would love to show you all...i dont remember all that was said but as this was going on i was talking to one of the GM'S also, i told him he knew that kill stealing was impossible and asked him why he was going along with this whole ordeal...but all he replied with was a smiley face. i told him never to speak to me again as he was no help and he lied to the both of us and then he told me to have a good day, again i told him do not speak to me and he had the nerve to say that he was just replying to my question!!! i told him again not to speak to me and that his smiley fae wasnt even an answer to the questions i had asked him and guess what he told me...HE TOLD ME I WAS HARASSING HIM AND FOR ME NOT TO SPEAK TO HIM!! Then we moved onto the forums to seek justice and vioce our opinions this is what my husband had to say (only a small portion) Hello all, We all know the GM team is corrupt and whatever they says goes no matter what the rules say. But today is enough i say. Today i was banned for kill stealing. Which mind you multiple GM's including Rizin and Tazen have told me is impossible without hacks wich i did not have and they check my inventory too. Now for the other reason i was banned FOR 30 DAYS, harassment. Apparently if you get enough of your guild memebers in a petition saying someone is harassing you you will get banned even if you only ever had a problem with one of their guild members wich was my case. and thirdly bad behavior wich intailed me saying the word jerk ONCE, And apparently bullyin a new player wich they knew was a complete mis understanding i accidently killed someone and told them sorry and i am being punished for it. Despite my best efforts to change these two corrupt dev and GM couple want me off the game even though i have been helping out 56 people allll new mind you progress in the game and all of them will tell you i am deffinetly not the man these corupt leaders portray me as. But unfortunitly what can i do. do to past mistakes i am marked as scum or unwanted person in the world of planeshift. Now i ask you if i was so bad and such a horrible person why is it that a guild the warriors thats been around for 3 YEARS not have a problem with me, And why is it if im such a horrible person of the community who gets supposedly soooo many Get this...you are not allowed to post ANYTHING about a GM...nothing what so ever...SO okay thats fine...but then i tried to start a topic about freedom of speach and wouldnt you no it....i wasnt allowed to do that either...even though it was regarding the PLANESHIFT game To be honest the GM'S arent following thier own rules, they wouldnt show him any proof of his actions either...they banned me from thier chat site for questions and they kept kicking me out when i was waiting for my answeres...i never said a single rude thing..But the GM i was speaking to i told him that if my husband was such a bad person then why does he have a guild of 56 players who are very loyal to him...and the GM'S response was "the Natzis were very loyal to hitler to and look what became of them" I personaly took offense to that, then my husband asked them to seek out the truth and the GM'S response was "yes im going to talk to your guild rather then make myself dinner" i mean if you want respect GM'S give a little respect to the players...You couldnt even prove that my husband even did anything wrong so there shouldnt be a ban in the first place...and if there was 6 complaints to begin with and they were all so terrible as you say they were then why was he not warned first? where is the proof?!!! (Thank you for reading, this is the first post ive really ever done...and please while i love the game itself...i play it alot!! i dont think the GM'S are doing thier jobs and they are most deffinately abusing the power they are given)
 
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  Re: [PLANESHIFT] Guardian Merchant abuse posted by Tuxide @ 24.252.46.107 on Jun 20 2009 6:29 AM  

NOTE: GM stands for Guardian Merchants (their guild), not Game Masters. I will repost the OP to make it easier to read.



HELLO ALL

I am currently a player on the game PlaneShift but i have some comments that were apparently not acceptable on the forums.

Today i was in the dylo pit, for some of you who arent familiar it is an open "player vs player" pit where you can be attacked by anyone at anytime...but there are npc's in that pit as well called dylo. I fell into that pit and as i tried to escape the dylo followed me into another room, there were other players in this room who saw it come in (no one died) and they took care of it because these other players were stronger than me.

My husband thought this was a funny idea and started having the dylo chase him around...another player thought he was doing it as a personal attack to them so they petitioned him for it > this is only the beginning!

My husband was then summoned by at least 4 Guardian Merchants and developers saying that they were all watching him...now i dont no about you but if you were a Guardian Merchant would you all just so happen to be watching one specific character? at that exact moment?

Then they said that over the past few days he had 6 reports against him but we didnt see a single one or hear of a single one...then they got on the topic of how he was kill stealing, this is what made me very upset...ive had 5 Guardian Merchants tell me that kill stealing is impossible without the help of a cheat or hack of some kind...which my husband was not using...then the Guardian Merchants turned around and said that he WAS kill stealing even after they said it was impossible?

They let my husband ramble on and on about how he hadnt done anything..mind you the dylo misshap wasnt even in a rule anywhere...there is no rule that says you cant move an npc...and if they think it was a type of harassment which we said it wasnt they still refused to believe him or even for the most part listen to anything he was saying

I wish i truly do that he could have saved the logs i would love to show you all...i dont remember all that was said but as this was going on i was talking to one of the Guardian Merchants also, i told him he knew that kill stealing was impossible and asked him why he was going along with this whole ordeal...but all he replied with was a smiley face. i told him never to speak to me again as he was no help and he lied to the both of us and then he told me to have a good day, again i told him do not speak to me and he had the nerve to say that he was just replying to my question!!! i told him again not to speak to me and that his smiley fae wasnt even an answer to the questions i had asked him and guess what he told me...HE TOLD ME I WAS HARASSING HIM AND FOR ME NOT TO SPEAK TO HIM!!

Then we moved onto the forums to seek justice and vioce our opinions

this is what my husband had to say (only a small portion)

Hello all, We all know the Guardian Merchant team is corrupt and whatever they says goes no matter what the rules say. But today is enough i say. Today i was banned for kill stealing. Which mind you multiple Guardian Merchants including Rizin and Tazen have told me is impossible without hacks wich i did not have and they check my inventory too. Now for the other reason i was banned FOR 30 DAYS, harassment. Apparently if you get enough of your guild memebers in a petition saying someone is harassing you you will get banned even if you only ever had a problem with one of their guild members wich was my case. and thirdly bad behavior wich intailed me saying the word jerk ONCE, And apparently bullyin a new player wich they knew was a complete mis understanding i accidently killed someone and told them sorry and i am being punished for it. Despite my best efforts to change these two corrupt dev and Guardian Merchant couple want me off the game even though i have been helping out 56 people allll new mind you progress in the game and all of them will tell you i am deffinetly not the man these corupt leaders portray me as. But unfortunitly what can i do. do to past mistakes i am marked as scum or unwanted person in the world of planeshift. Now i ask you if i was so bad and such a horrible person why is it that a guild the warriors thats been around for 3 YEARS not have a problem with me, And why is it if im such a horrible person of the community who gets supposedly soooo many

Get this...you are not allowed to post ANYTHING about a Guardian Merchant...nothing what so ever...SO okay thats fine...but then i tried to start a topic about freedom of speach and wouldnt you no it....i wasnt allowed to do that either...even though it was regarding the PLANESHIFT game

To be honest the Guardian Merchants arent following thier own rules, they wouldnt show him any proof of his actions either...they banned me from thier chat site for questions and they kept kicking me out when i was waiting for my answeres...i never said a single rude thing..But the Guardian Merchant i was speaking to i told him that if my husband was such a bad person then why does he have a guild of 56 players who are very loyal to him...and the Guardian Merchants response was "the Natzis were very loyal to hitler to and look what became of them" I personaly took offense to that, then my husband asked them to seek out the truth and the Guardian Merchants response was "yes im going to talk to your guild rather then make myself dinner" i mean if you want respect Guardian Merchants give a little respect to the players...You couldnt even prove that my husband even did anything wrong so there shouldnt be a ban in the first place...and if there was 6 complaints to begin with and they were all so terrible as you say they were then why was he not warned first? where is the proof?!!!

(Thank you for reading, this is the first post ive really ever done...and please while i love the game itself...i play it alot!! i dont think the Guardian Merchants are doing thier jobs and they are most deffinately abusing the power they are given)



 
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  Re: [PLANESHIFT] Guardian Merchant abuse posted by arashi20 @ 67.193.245.38 on Jun 20 2009 4:31 PM  
This person who just re-posted my post did it in another forum as well PLEASE NOT THAT GM STANDS OR GAME MASTER not guardian merchant, i dont no how this person isnt aware of it when i told him that to begin with on the other orum he did this on ^_^
 
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  Re: [PLANESHIFT] Guardian Merchant abuse posted by Tuxide @ 24.252.46.107 on Jun 20 2009 6:53 PM  
See? GM stands for Guardian Merchants, this is clearly about Guardian Merchant abuse.
 
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  Re: [PLANESHIFT] Guardian Merchant abuse posted by arashi20 @ 67.193.245.38 on Jun 20 2009 8:26 PM  
Tuxide your clearly bad at this, no wonder everyone kept calling you a troll everyone knows what im talking about GM stands for GAME MASER i dont no how many times i need to repeat myself. Maybe you should write it down so you will remember next time ^_^
 
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  Re: [PLANESHIFT] Guardian Merchant abuse posted by Tuxide @ 24.252.46.107 on Jun 20 2009 8:38 PM  
PLEASE NOT THAT GM STANDS OR GAME MASTER

Done. If it doesn't stand for Game Master, like you said, it stands for Guardian Merchant.

 
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  Re: [PLANESHIFT] GM abuse posted by Zanzibar @ 99.236.187.222 on Jun 20 2009 9:59 PM  
"My husband was then summoned by at least 4 GMs and developers saying that they were all watching him...now i dont no about you but if you were a GM would you all just so happen to be watching one specific character? at that exact moment?"

If they suspect someone is breaking the rules or is going to break the rules, they will watch that person. 4 GMs seems like a lot, but I can see that happening. All you'd have to do is ask people in the GM chat or on irc to come hang out and watch the person as a group.


"Then they said that over the past few days he had 6 reports against him but we didnt see a single one or hear of a single one..."

This makes sense as well. If they suspect that you're breaking the rules, but they don't have great evidence for it, they might wait for you to do it again while being watched. Letting you know you're being watched might make it more difficult for them to catch you.


"They let my husband ramble on and on about how he hadnt done anything..mind you the dylo misshap wasnt even in a rule anywhere...there is no rule that says you cant move an npc...and if they think it was a type of harassment which we said it wasnt they still refused to believe him or even for the most part listen to anything he was saying"

Can you understand why someone might feel harassed if you led an ultra powerful, ultra fast mob to them?

There doesn't have to be a rule that explicitly makes a behaviour illegal in order for that behaviour to be illegal. The Game Masters have an extremely high level of discretion when it comes to labeling behaviours as disruptive.

That said, the situation seems to also be very much complicated by the fact that the ban isn't based on only a single kind of offense.


"i told him he knew that kill stealing was impossible and asked him why he was going along with this whole ordeal..."

I don't know why anyone would tell you kill stealing is impossible. Kill stealing in PlaneShift is very possible, and you don't need a third party program or any kind of hack. All you need to do is cast arrow on a mob. Here's how it works:

Player 1 attacks mob A.
Player 2 begins casting arrow on mob A.
Player 1 hits mob A.
Player 2's spell finishes casting and hits mob A.
Player 1 receives a message saying Player 2 is already attacking mob A.
Player 1 is now blocked from attacking mob A.

If both players use arrow, then they will both be locked out of attacking the mob.

Pretty much everyone knows about this, including all the game masters and developers. The only thing I can think of is that maybe they don't call it kill stealing. But you're stealing someone's kill, so I don't know what else to call it. If the game masters no longer call this kill stealing, then I'll have to start calling it something else as well.

I'm not going to defend everything anyone does, nor is it my intention to attack anyone with this post, nor is it my intention to speak on behalf of the game masters, nor is it my intention to definitively state why the game masters did what they did. Everything in this post is merely my opinion, and as such, should be ignored. :-D
 
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  Re: [PLANESHIFT] Guardian Merchant abuse posted by Tuxide @ 24.252.46.107 on Jun 20 2009 11:22 PM  
Sounds like he was making NPC trains and running over people to me. See? What did I say, I told you this is about Guardian Merchant abuse.
 
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  Re: [PLANESHIFT] Guardian Merchant abuse posted by Zanzibar @ 99.236.187.222 on Jun 21 2009 12:04 AM  
People are abusing the Guardian Merchants?
 
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  Re: [PLANESHIFT] Guardian Merchant abuse posted by arashi20 @ 67.193.245.38 on Jun 21 2009 1:17 AM  
please be quiet tuxide ive really had just about enough of you and no first they said 3 reports were filed, then they said 6, then they said 12?!! i mean all 4 gms couldnt even stick to one story? and naimon was in the arena killing mercenaries for about 30 minutes before anything happened...im to believe that the GMs were watching him that whole time? and sorry but RIZIN herselff told me that kill stealing is impossible without a bug/cheat/hack and naimon doesnt even have an arrow spell thank you very much. It all sounds a little fishy to me..and plus, the person being banned is allowed to see proof and or evidene of why hes being banned and they could not provide anything to me it doesnt seem right at all Not to mention if there were that many reports filed against him by other players over the course of one week...then why didnt they ban him before all of that because one of the gms told him and gave him a warning that if he did anything else to be disruptive he would be banned for 6 months, well apparently he had 12 reports filed after that gm told him that and he was only banned for 30 days? where does that make sense?
 
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  PlaneShift posted by Zanzibar @ 99.236.187.222 on Mar 10 2009 12:14 AM  
The following post was deleted from PlaneShift's official forum:


"The tavern in Hydlaa is a traditional place to meet other roleplayers. Events are advertised on the forum that are wonderful opportunities for RP. People [also] collect near Harnquist although they aren't exclusively looking for RP."


If anyone can tell me why such a post should be deleted, I'm listening. It's not the first time seemingly innocuous posts have been deleted on the official forum without explanation, but it's irritating.

Does anyone know what the policy or thinking is behind deleting such posts? I can't think of any justification for it.
 
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  Re: PlaneShift posted by Tuxide @ 24.252.46.107 on Mar 11 2009 1:01 AM  

Why it depends what thread it was on. If something off-topic was on my <Banker> guild thread, I would be pissed.

Welcome to the backseat modding crew.

 
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  Re: PlaneShift posted by Zanzibar @ 99.236.187.222 on Mar 11 2009 3:34 AM  
It was posted here. I was the second person to reply.
 
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  PlaneShift posted by Gallaecio @ 213.60.150.134 on Feb 21 2009 4:14 PM 55555
 
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  PlaneShift posted by Zanzibar @ 173.32.153.130 on Feb 10 2009 6:24 AM  
I know a lot of critics read here, so I want to pose a question to you...

If so much is wrong with PlaneShift, why is it still around? And why does it always have a dedicated group of players around it?
 
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  Re: PlaneShift posted by testx @ 66.189.95.152 on Mar 4 2009 10:25 AM 1
I think a better question is:

Why hasn't planeshift grown at all both in terms of player base and quality over the past few years?

I've tried planeshift a number of times. I usually check it out once a year. Every single time I've tried the same thing has happened. I start exploring and never see anyone. Then, usually within an hour, I get stuck on some terrain or stuck in some area that I can't get out of so I kill myself. In purgatory, I try to get out for about 10 minutes and then give up. Also, purgatory is the only place I've ever seen anyone else (they were also lost). The thing that baffles me about purgatory is that it doesn't seem to change. So while experienced players probably don't mind it once they know how to get out, it is absolutely punishing for new players.

What I don't understand is why planeshift developers don't seem to want new contributors. Look, I'm a developer and I'm interested in working on an mmo. Let's say I wanted to try to fix that problem where I got stuck on terrain. How would I do that? I can get the source for the engine, but I can't actually load the terrain that I got stuck on. The process for becoming a new developer (who presumably has access) is ridiculous too. I want to contribute in my spare time, not apply for a real job that doesn't pay.

To answer your question: People are still playing because there is a lot of interest in free mmo's. Even a bad one is likely to attract a bunch of people. When you compare planeshift to any other free mmo though, it's player base is tiny. They just haven't structured the project in a way that's going to lead to growth.

 
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  Re: PlaneShift posted by Striker @ 71.228.44.213 on May 10 2009 7:38 PM  
It is a spare-time project being managed and funded by three individuals. It isn't going anywhere. Because it is free and always there, there will always be users associated with it. That means nothing. Better questions are why its user base never significantly grows, why the segment of longtime players is not bigger than a couple of people, and why the same issues get discussed over and over about the project repeatedly.
 
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  Re: PlaneShift posted by Talad @ 79.40.33.136 on Dec 24 2009 5:11 PM 55555
Why 90% of the bad posts here are made by Zanzibar?
 
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  Re: PlaneShift posted by Tuxide @ 24.252.46.107 on Dec 24 2009 8:10 PM  
Why do you give a damn about what Zanzibar says?
 
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  Don't forget to...Have Fun posted by Acuzio @ 82.208.161.109 on Jan 31 2009 8:41 PM 1
I've seen all those people talking about bugs, developers, GMs, the (im)balance of power in the comunity; Guys you have to recognize that arguing isn't the goal of the game, I recomend you all to open the game in fullscreen mode, set an away message like "[This character isn't telephatic, you'll have to find me and wave in my range of vision]" close all the windows onscreen (shortcuts,status,comunication;..all of them) and go in first-person view camera, explore around (for example the Bronze Doors valley), try this immersive gameplay, and just ENJOY !!! fo`get about GMs, be a peasant for one day Long live the boss and fill the coffers
 
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  We have a second server! posted by Oomi @ 76.26.200.208 on Jan 18 2009 8:03 PM 55555
The PlaneShift team is pleased to announce that we now have a second server available to players. It will definitely open up more options to both gameplay and development. The original server, laanx, is still available and will continue to be so. For details, please go here: http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=34586.0 For instructions on how to join the server, please visit here: http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=34607.0 Thanks to The Linux Game Tome for including our game on their site!
 
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  Ausuna's Opinion posted by Ausuna Eleves @ 220.231.161.217 on Jan 3 2009 8:43 AM 333
Hmmm... IMHO...

I actually like this game.

This is open source, and the people run it want to fulfil ego and get peer respect after doing the hard work, which is absolutely righteous.

But when you want to get the ego and peer respect from the players, problem is what you can expect.

Again IMHO,

a more proper way to run it is to eliminate all the God-like incidents. If you want to interact with the players (which I think is necessary and good for the project and kind), appear as a normal character and spare the God-like events. Leave that to the players, and you members can also be one.

And you cannot say this after the God-like events, "Why our dev giving out gifts troubles you? Does it cost you more to train because we trained someone else's skill to the maximum for free?"

Unluckily, the answer is yes. Much more expensive. It's not because others are greedy. It's the power of relativity. Even Ausuna knows this after the crash course on psychology.

[Some will say "I helped to build this game, you think you know better than me how to run it? Hehe, got me :P]

And please know that we players are not only free-lance testers. For those who has greater abilities, he shall bear more responsibilities. Maybe you spent 10 hours and wrote a piece of code, but many users spent 1000 hours running it. I think a VIP (I forgot his name, but should be almost as VIP as Linus and Richard Stallman) once said something like this, you can't treat your users less (than commercial software authors) just because they do not pay money to you

Dunno.. maybe I'm just an over-sensitive person.

And Ausuna do leave this time. Goodbye my friends. ^_^
 
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  Re: Ausuna's Opinion posted by psb154 @ 78.105.176.34 on Jan 8 2009 12:06 PM 333
Don't go.

PlaneCrash needs people who criticise it.

A Software Tester of any worth, will always be: the bringer of bad news. 

When a software tester does not create bug reports, the code-monkeys claim that we are not doing our job. 

When we report bugs we are looked down upon for pushing back release dates and questions are asked:

- Why wasn't this bug found sooner?
- Why do you need N amount of weeks to test this new version, we haven't 
  changed much?!
- Why didn't you find that bug what-the-customer-has-found.
- Oh good: automation. We don't need Software Testers any more.

The fact is: Anyone can create software. 

Newbie-dufus-developers crawl out of University with zero-I-mean-zero industrial
strength experience of software development and even less knowledge of how to
test the stuff but a great facility for stringing together sentences containing
acronyms and vogue techno-buzz-words [gob-shait-ing].

Software companies then snap them up because of their vocal GSing and allow them
to work on mission critical projects; for sale to clueless customers, who, in
fairness, assume that the software company will have planned, built and tested
that software thoroughly.

It's bolox.

Please don't go. 

Keep playing and keep posting here or somewhere with your opinions of
PlaneCrash. Otherwise PlaneCrash will likely-never improve and all we will see
are people sucking up to Devs and GMs, where some hope to gain some reciprocal
in-game favours or some GM super powers for themselves.


 
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  Re: Ausuna's Opinion posted by Tuxide @ 24.252.46.107 on Jan 8 2009 9:29 PM  
I can neither agree or disagree with you because I have no idea what you just said.
 
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  Re: Ausuna's Opinion posted by qui gon jinn @ 213.196.226.104 on Jan 16 2009 7:21 PM 55555
If you don't like it then don't play it. It's that easy.
Why don't you put your energy into something productive?
 
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  Re: Ausuna's Opinion posted by Zanzibar @ 173.32.153.130 on Jan 19 2009 1:57 AM  
It is pretty simple... there are lots of bad games out there and they aren't all worth writing essays about.

Still, hating the game isn't the same as seeing where improvements can be made. The devs are constantly looking for critical feedback. I can't figure out what psb154 was actually writing about though. I'm not sure if he was talking about the game itself or the people making it?
 
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